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  ABC    Inside Washington    News/Business. Round-table  
   discussions feature journalists. (CC)  

    October 14, 2012
    9:00 - 9:30am EDT  

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to you by the american federation of government employees. for more information and memberership visit afge.org. >> the next time y you hear them sa don't worry about it, we'll get a few other people to pay their fair share, watch out middle-class, the tax man is coming to. >> the vice-presidential debate. >> folks, use common sense. who would you trurust on this? a man who would raise your bill for $600 a year or manand the president? >> did joe biden stop the romney
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wave? > you will win? >> yes. >> also, the washington battle over been gauzybenghazi. anand affirmative action returns to the supreme court. >> i hope e the court rules that a student's race and ethnicity shshould not be considered when applying to the university of texaxas. >> an instant cnn poll gave paul ryan the edge in the vice- presidential debate. an instant cbs pulled it to joe bibiden. new york times says it was a dedebate with clarity and fervor.
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following the exchange on medicare and sial security. >> medicare icand social zuccotti did so much for my own family. we will not jeopardize this program.m. >> your jeopardize in the program. you are changing the pgram from a guaranteed benefits. the bottomom line is th people will pay more money out of their pocket. >>talking points memo ask the question showed obama supporters start faking out? [lghter] ninamy question, did the vice presidident head off the free get it? >> i think he probably did. the for the people he was cheering him on, he did what the president didd not dohehe week befo. he answered every single thing that all rain hadd to say. -- that paul ryan had to say. if he had not beenilled in that smile all the time, which is kind of a tick when he is ticked offou wouould havave said
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that he wiped the for with paul ryan. >> josh, pick a winner. >> if you read the tracript,t, it was a draw. if you listen to it on radio joe biden one. if youched it on tv, joe biden lost. if you heard it on radio, you would sa that joe biden hadad the energy. he was in control. he walked alll ovethe moderator and sometimes all over all rain. paul ryan was definitely differential. but ifou saw on tv with that mad smile that jack nicholson smile going right through the debate, the condescension and the eye roll, if you remember what it did did to al gore, it took away from the substantive debate. >> ihink, compared to
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president obama's performance last week,k, joe biden did an outstanding job. he knew his points and he was aggressive. but he smiled too much. he smiled at times when it was unnecessary. but that is matcheded by the smirk that came across paul ryan. it was an animated discussion and i think that joeiden had his own points that he needed to make. >> basically two-person debates are far beer when both people show up. [laughter] and theyhowedd up, unlike a a week ago when only o one showed up. i thought it was good and it served both parties. and paul ryan was spreader
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naturally cool for his first -- was preternaturally cool for his first shot. i think joe biden reenergize them. he made the case. he nailed paul ryan a couple of times specificly on the lack of any details on the tax plan. sesecondlyly paul ryan's request fostimulus funds two w written requests. that was one of the few times that paul ryan knew better than to respond. >> what about medicare and social security and up with the middle-class and? >> could be your a all day.
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at least they had a discussion about the economy as opposed to lalast weekk in the one-sided coersation. something ey should have touched on was immigration and edation. but i think they were guided pretty much by the moderator. i think she did a great job in conducting this. i don't find the debate wanting on substantive issues. >> if you're my age and you are watching this thing and you're worried about m medicare and social security, charles, which of these individuals do believe? >> it depends on who you arere predisposed to believe. joe biden is a new deal liberal. whereas his own president is willing to contemplate, say, raising the retirementt age, joe biden said, no, we will not
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toucthese things. these things are sacred. everybody knows that, if you do not do anything major for medicare and social security, it will not be around. wewe are the party of medicare and social security. republicans have lgely opposed it. yes, for 50 years, , that is true. but what will you do when yoyour own presidenent has said th medicare will die unless it is reform? if you're incnclined toward the new deal liberalism, you will accept what joe biden had said. if you listenened to paul ryan, and hehe was somewhat deferential he saiwe have to amend it. have to change it. and here is how we will do it. >> a week after the first pridential debate, why is this year, ameriri privately-owned freight railroads plan to spend $23 billion on their network. that's like building 4 t's stadiums, 5 wilson bridges, and 8 dc convention centers...all
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in one year. and not a penny of it comes from taxpayers. [ male announcer ] president obama says he's creating jobs but he's really creating debt. the facts are clear. obama's four deficits are the four largest in us history. he's adding almost as much debt as all 43 previous presidents -- combined. and over 30 cents of every dollar obama spends is borrowed. much of it from countries like china. he's not just wasting money he's borrowing it and
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then wasting it. we can't afford four more years. [ romney ] i'm mitt romney and i approve this messe. when we switched to fios, we got better tv, better phone better internet. [ male announcer ] it's time to get more for our money. upgrade to verizon fi internet, tv anand phone with our best price online: just $84.99 a month, guaranteed for one year with no annual contract. internet is absolutely imperative for school nowadays. look up this, write an essay on that. my life is greatly improved because of fios. [ male announcer ] don't wait! switch to fios for
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a super-low $84.99 a month for a year with no annual contract. visit verizon.com/superoffer. contact the verizon center for customers with disabilities welcome to life on fios. at 800-974-6006 tty/v. this year, america's privately-owned freight railroads plan to spend $23 billion on their network. that's like launching 4 mars rovers, 10 gps satellites, and 20 space shuttles ...all in one year. and not a penny of it comes from taxpayers. >> what happened? >> gov. romney had a good night. i hahad a bad night. it is not the first time i have had a bad night >> if the poehler to be believed, it was a bad, bad night. and the e president was still talking about it a week later. pew, romn is a great performance and erases the obama lead. dithis surprise you?
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>> what surprised me most of all, just 10 days ago, my good conservative friends were telling me about the sinister conspiracy of polls, that they are all -- to give this impression that e liberals are running awayay with the election. analysts and the conspiracy has been hijacked and now the conservatives have hijacked the polls. liberals were dispirited. i was in ohio this week. there wa a sense of real puzzlement. where was the president? why did he not show up? people have been p picking out their inaugural outfit. e mney people,rior to that rebates were heading to the lifeboats. they thought it was over and they would concentrate on holding on to the house and may be winning the senate. sot was transformational. in the political world however
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has not changed the way people feel about mitt romnmney. they still feel he is out of touch. that remainsa problemven for charles. >> the neocon said that monday was the day that pinnacle performing died. [laughter] -- that political performing died. [laughter] whatat do you think? >> i don't know about what john was saying, but my view last treat -- i know that mark keeps very close trackck to what i say -- i felt that this conspiracy stuff about the polls was ridiculous. you can make an argument that the polls are using a model of the electorore of the wrong year. i dodon't even acceptpt that. the pos are almost unerring i their curacy in the primary and the general election.
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but it was a real switch. it was a real change. the only quibble i have with mark is, you know that ledge where the liberals -- we were on back floor last week and we were happy to vacate. [laughter] > the view is fantastic from their. >> on cooking the books, what about the charge that the 7.8% unemployedment number was cooked? >> i think that the obama-romne debate, romney came across as somebody witsome stature and you cou visualize him in the white house. fast f forward to the debate between paul ryan and vice esident biden and uc paul ryan
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not as vice president, but perhaps the head of the office of management and budget. [crosstalk] >> the girl wants to say something. >> why should she be allowed? >> well, because she should. >> i thohought it was interesting that, paul ryan, who was talking about the economimic stuff you know, he h has in his own band some of you can criticize him for his veracity, but he did fine. when it c came to foreign policy, you can almost see the flip cards in his brain. it had no similitude to real knowledge of the then having crammed for the exam -- real
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>> we did not know they wanted more security. >> what we are seeing as wturn on their televisio screens these days is the absolute unraveling of the obama foreign policy. >> mart raddatz began by asking about the attack at the u.s. consul in benghazi. it turns out that this was not a demonstration hijacked by extremists. but it was a planned attack carried out by heavily armed individuals. there was a a house hearing on this this week. amer secret official criticized the state department for turning down a request for
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more help. this used to be your area. why did they turn d down requests for security? and is there a coverup? > i have been in the position where i have asked for something and i can get it from headquarters, from people who are not on the ground and cannot appreciate what you are doing on the ground. is is the field headquarters issue that you have. obviously that reququest had been granted and it did not come from the national guard. they should have followed that request. that is bebeyond the bels of the bureaucracy of the state department. it doesn't get to the secretary
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muchch less to the white hous i do not see a cover-up. they did not doing enough and sometimes you can jump out thehere and made judgments without knowing all the facts. susan ricece obviously did not have all the packs when she was asked to respond -- all the facts when n she was asked to respond. you have a situation where they said too much at the beginning. but that is not a cover-up. >> it is a lousy one and one that ravelled and quickly by their own hand. they know had to defeat and prevent a hearing like this from happening. >> there was no d demonstration. there was not a mob. there was no reaction to what
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ppened in cairo. that was a complete invention. if you'd look at the of susan rice on the five shows, and she was talking about the screaming and terrist and embellishment in the crowd none of that was remotely true. fromom the first day t people on the ground oked out on the video cameras and saudi ambassador walked out with a tuturkish delegate at half past 8:00 p.m. in the evening. there is no one inn the street. it had happenened and our intense later. everybody in the embassy kneww that there was none of this and th had communicated that with the state department. evererybody knew. th is not believable. either susan rice is completely clueless, then why is she out there and why is she inventing or she knew, after a week of spiking a ftball over al qaeda and osama bin laden they did not want to admit that wasl qaeda on the run killing our ambassador the first one in0
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years. >> i hear what charles has to say and it really gets into the dark c conspirac area. the idea that you come out of the convention and something like this happens and we the have a master conspiracy to contain it knowinghat, inevitably, it will come out -- you have four families involved. we hadad american colleagues involved. this will come out. ineptitude? absolutely. and perhaps to the level of at least firing someone. but coming out of the shower of the convention and they will keep this bubble -- >> how do yothink joe biden responded to this? >> i don't think he answered the question. >> he did. he told a falsehd. >> it was his worst momt.
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he is smart enough to have sort of twisted the question so that he did not answer it. but itas really the hardest part for him because there is an answer. thanswer is that there was a screwup. >>t the time, remember how the embassy in cairo was under siege and the wall had been breached. you had the same thing in benghazi, for different reasons and different things. >> there was nonot a crowd. they stormed the embassy. they were not cararrying signs. >> it was not a birthday party. it was a group of individuals with weapons storming the consulate. >> it is not called a demonstration. >> who said it was a demonstration? > one of ththings that joe
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ben did was telell and out right falsehood. he said in the clip that we didn't know they wanted extra security. ey were crying for it. >> we will agree to disagr [ mujahid ] there was a little bit of trepidation,
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not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been you know this is what you had been doing. you know working, working, working, working, working, working. and now you're talking about, well you know, i won't be and i get the chance to spend more time with my wife and my kid it's my world. that's my world. ♪ ♪
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-- the last time the united states supreme court invnvolved in the university of texasnd its use of race in admissions was 60 years s ago. the issue then wasbout
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excluding african-n-americans and we were on the wrong side of history. >> that is bill powers, esident of the university of texas at austin. this time, the case is about a whwhite woman was denied it mission. could this be the beginning of the end of affirmative action? >> it could be. let me tell you a little e bit about this. what is really interesting about this case is that it is a bit different because, at some point, when texas got rid of affirmative aion, the minority numberso sell off the cliff. george bush signed a state law that giveses the top 10% of any class has the right to go to ut. that gives you quite a bit of diversity because a lot of the schools in texexas are defective segregat. but the the number was still drop and it was stagnant. we had this huge minority population. so they added a pretty modest but nevertheless the affirmative action plan.
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>> how do yothink it will go? >> i am not a court counter. but it seems like this might be a split. it is a split, the cuent decision stands. when the founderers wrote the constitution i w 3/5 of a peon. the issue of gettinadmitted too a school was not even there. it goes beyeyondd desegregation. is an issue of diversity. diversity has nothing to do with this panel. >> i think this is one that they are wrestling with and there has not en a clear resolution in the society at large. i think it is very open. i agree withh nina that this could be the beginning of t the and. >> it is a matter principle. do you judge anyone by the
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content of the character or the color of theheir skin? that is what is at stake here. >> thank you. we will see you next week. >> inside washington is b brought to you in part by the american federation ofovernment employees, proud to make america work. for more information about [ male announcer ] president obama says he's creating jobs but he's really creating debt. the facts are clear. obama's four deficits are the four largest in us history. he's adding almost as much debt as all 43 previous presidents -- combined. and over 30 cents of every dollar obama spends is borrowed. much of it from countries like china. he's not just wasting money he's borrowing it and then wasting it. we can't afford four moreears. [ romney ] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. when we switched to fios, we got better tv, better phone, better
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